PHEER GRINDERS   - 2X72 BELT GRINDERS         PHEER327@GMAIL.COM   503 830-2492
2 x 72 belts  

I am asked all the time were do you buy belts from .
TRUGRIT.com    huge selection


USA Knife makers   also has a good selection 

super grit .com  has low prices 
they have 100% felt belts .these work great with green or white buffing bars
to polish up your blade to a mirror finish  


1.start off with 2 x 72 belts 
 stock removal is done with 36 grit to 80 grit belts 



stock removal   GRITS
 36 ,40 ,60 ,80 grits 
 norton blaze or 3m cubitron 2 984 
refine steel & handle shape
120 , 180 , 220 , 
3m , norton 
finish option 1
320 -800 
3m ,norton .aluminum oxide
finish option 2
320 - 800 
super grit .com  silicon carbide 
finish option 3 norax micron
100,65,45,30,15,5
norton norax belts ,usa knifemaker 
finish option 4 trizact 3M
100,60,45,30,20,15,5
 3M structured abrasive MICRON



BUFFING FELT BELT 
GREEN CHROME 
supergrit.com
BUFFING  COTTON WHEEL 
WHITE & GREEN chrm
 both compounds will work 


  


I prefer 60  grit 
 3M cubitron 2  984  ceramic belt     is the best belt available . i HAVE USED ALL KINDS & these  cut fast 

 R980 Blaze ceramic  40 to 60 grit belt  also very good 

2. next move to 80 - 120 grit to remove previous grind lines off the  blade 

 2x72- R980Y Blaze ceramic or cubitron 2  80 Grit to 120 Grit  

3. after refining the blade finish you can use   use 180 - 220 -  ceramic  , silicon carbide   or zirconia  all will  will work for this step 

4. 220 on up I use a few different types of belts .

    220 up to 800  try silicon carbide belts  very nice finish . consistent and predictable 
 

   220 TO 800  GRIT TRY CORK BELTS very fine finish and they last forever   S.R . Johnson uses these type of belts on his knives . for break in tips look at 
trugrit.com to see how he breaks in the cork belts .

  3M  trizact    #'s  100  ,60 , 45, 30,20 ,15 & 5   these are micron belts and grit size is measured in the screen hole size that is used to sift the grains in the separation process . so the larger the number the larger the grit size

 
OR 

NORTON  NORAX    #'s  100  ,60 , 45, 30,20 ,15 & 5   these are micron belts ALSO 

this should get you close to a mirror finish . 

buff with a cotton wheeled buffer .with green chrome .


I use all of these  belts  when working on a knife . over time you will find a combination that works for you .

belts are different in many ways  grit , backing weight , cork, ceramic ,aluminum oxide , zirconium. silicon carbide . structured abrassives .

and dont forget about felt buffing belts and leather belts . 






There are three basic set ups  for pheer belt grinder 

 SLACK-of-belt, FLAT PLATEN andcontact wheel. Slack-of-belt is used with  low pressure finishing of blades and handles .  FLAT Platen have a flat plate backing up the abrasive belt,USED for grinding and finishing flat surfaces SUCH AS FLAT GRINDS 
.
  But contact wheel set ups  are by far the most common and the most versatile

In fact, after selection of the proper abrasive belt, the contact wheel is the most important factor in how a belt will ultimately perform.  Contact wheels serve as the back-up to the belt and I have found that they can be used for almost 80% of the work on a knife from cleaning pits to profiling the shape and hollow grinding 

 
There are just a few basic concepts to consider when selecting a contact wheel:

1.)  Construction: Contact wheels for polishing are made using either rubber-covered aluminum or polyurethane 

2.)  Hardness: The basic rule of thumb – the softer the wheel, the softer the scratch and the better the conformability to the workpiece. Rubber contact wheels are easily measured in “durometer” hardness values (20 being the softer end of the scale and 90 at the harder end).  50 duro to 70 is ideal for knife making  90 duro is the hardest wheel that should be used .

3.)  Serration: On rubber contact wheels, serrations are grooves cut into the face of the wheel.  This action allows more pressure on the belt which is supported on the “lands” between the grooves (as compared to a smooth-faced wheel). The pattern of “grooves and lands” allows better breakdown of the abrasive grain and also cooler cutting with less working pressure 

smooth faced wheels are much better for finishing blades 

.  Contact wheels can be ordered with various groove-to-land ratios, groove depths and shapes and angles of serration. 
 A typical contact wheel for general purpose grinding or finishing would be 8" to  14” diameter, 2" wide  50-70 durometer hardness, 3/8” to 3/8” groove-to-land ratio, 3/8” groove depth and have a 45° serration angle.



buffing info link 


--------Contact Wheels -------

drop point hunter by Jose Navarro

  • All wheels are fitted with internal bearings with a 1/2" ID
  • 70-80 Durometer
  all wheel are 2" wide with a 1/2" ID

2"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$65
3"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$75
4"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$79
5"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$115
6"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$145
8"   diameter-----------------------------------------------$285
10"  diameter ---------------------------------------------- $325
12"  diameter -----------------------------------------------$369
14"  diameter ---------------------------------------------- $440 

CONTACT WHEELS NEED AN EXTRA TOOL ARM 


       A LIST OF SUPPLIERS FOR KNIFE RELATED ITEMS, 



Jantz Supply
www.knifemaking.com
jantz@jantzusa.com
PO Box 584 
309 West Main
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800.351.8900
Phone: 580.369.2316

K & G Supply                                          
www.knifeandgun.com
sales@knifeandgun.com
info@knifeandgun.com
PO Box 458 Mail Stop I
Lakeside, AZ  85929-0458
Information: 928.537.8877
Orders: 800.972.1192

Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc.
www.sheffieldsupply.com
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL  32774-1107
Cust. Serv.: 904.775.6453

Tru-Grit                   
I like tru grit they have a huge selection of belts 
www.trugrit.com
Trugrit1@aol.com
760 E. Francis St. N
Ontario, CA  91761
Sales & 909.923.4116

Texas Knifemaker's Supply
www.texasknife.com
jimll@hal-pc.org
10649 Haddington #180
Houston, TX  77043
Phone: 713.461.8632
Toll Free: 888.461.8632

Alpha Knife Supply
www.alphaknifesupply.com
www.titanium-man.com
titanium.man@gte.net
Chuck Bybee
Phone: 425.868.5880
Cell: 425.246.7215

 USA KNIFE MAKERS   
Tracy & his staff  are great to deal with 
Midwest Knifemakers
www.usaknifemaker.com
tracy@usaknifemaker.com
42112 Kerns Drive
North Mankato, MN 56003
Tel: 507.947.3760

Admiral Steel
www.admiralsteel.com
sales@admiralsteel.com
4152 West 123rd St.
Alsip, IL  60803
Tel: 800.323.7055
Fax: 708.388.9317

New Jersey steel baron 
Little Giant
420 4th Corso
Nebraska City, NE  68410
402.873.6603
Parts for mechanical hammers.


Zoro Tools
www.zorotools.com
chase.twomey@zorotools.com
Phone: 855.BUY.ZORO (855.289.9676)

Jeweler's Supply
  www.swestinc.com

Custom Laser, Inc.
www.customlaserinc.com

Paul Bos  heat treating   ( best ) 
1900 Weld Blvd.
El Cajon, CA  92020
Tel.: 619.562.2370
Air-hardened steel only (stainless)

PETERS HEAT TREAT 
blade division 
belts in 25 packs or 50 3m AO    577 & ceramics 

seamount knife works   lots of very good info , very detailed info on steel and other topics 

Z KNIVES 
http://zknives.com/

master list of all kinds of knife stuff http://ajh-knives.com/material.html#top






Gerst hard wood face book page.
John sells awesome stabilized scales first rate knife handles 



Safety
1. always wear form fitting  Gloves  avoid loose fitting gloves ,
wear eye protection and a leather apron 

2. never hold the blade in a manner that can catch the belt edge and throw it back at you ,avoid using the section above the contact wheel to sharpen a blade . I discovered it the hard way ,I barely had enough time to jump to the side to avoid a flying razor sharp knife that was launched right at me . it's just not worth the risk . 

3 let the belt do the work , avoid jamming your work into the belt . if your hands slip then chances are you will end up pushing your fingers right into the belt , if your not wearing gloves then you may grind off your finger tips .  

grinding steel  can be dangerous if safe and proper operating procedures are not followed. As with all machinery, there are certain hazards involved with the operation of the belt grinder . Using the machine with respect and caution will considerably lessen the possibility of personal injury.
 However, if normal safety precautions are overlooked or ignored,personal injury to the operator may result.

 Safety equipment such as , push sticks,  leather gloves , leather apron ,goggles, dust masks and hearing protection can reduce your potential for injury.              But even the best safety equiptment  won’t makeup for poor judgment, carelessness or inattention. Always use common sense and exercise caution in the workshop.If a procedure feels dangerous, don’t try it.
 Figure out an alternative procedure that feels safer. REMEMBER: Your personal safety is your responsibility.This machine was designed for certain applications only.

.3. ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION. Wear safety glasses. Everyday eyeglasses only have impact resistant lenses; they are not safety glasses. Also use face or dust mask if cutting operation is dusty. These safety glasses must conform to ANSI Z87

.5. KEEP WORK AREA CLEAN. Cluttered areas and benches invite accidents 

.6. DON’T USE IN DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT. Don’ tuse power tools in damp or wet locations, or expose them to rain. Keep work area well-lighted. 
7. KEEP CHILDREN AND VISITORS AWAY. All children  and visitors should be kept a safe distance from work area.
8. MAKE WORKSHOP CHILDPROOF – with padlocks,master switches, or by removing starter keys.
9. DON’T FORCE TOOL. It will do the job better and be safer at the rate for which it was designed
.10.  Don’t force tool or attachment to do a job for which it was not designed

.11. WEAR PROPER APPAREL. No loose clothing, ,neckties, rings, bracelets, or other jewelry to get caught in the belt or wheels . Nonslip footwear is recommended. Wear protective hair covering to contain long hair.

12. SECURE WORK. hold the piece firmly 
.13. DON’T OVERREACH. Keep proper footing and balance at all times.
14. MAINTAIN TOOLS IN TOP CONDITION. check bearings and bolts  Keep clean for best and safest performance.
.15. DISCONNECT MOTOR AND DRIVE  before servicing 







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